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message 1: by Michael (new)

Michael (Knowledgelost) Looking for some great Hard-Boiled & Noir books.

Something like;
The Big Sleep
The Postman Always Rings Twice
The Maltese Falcon
The Killer Inside Me


message 2: by Nancy (new)

Nancy (quinnsmom) | 63 comments Definitely the Factory series by Derek Raymond. If you don't want to go international, you might enjoy James Crumley.


message 3: by Michael (new)

Michael (Knowledgelost) Both authors look great. Will check them out :)


message 4: by Jill (last edited Mar 13, 2011 07:08pm) (new)

Jill (Bucs1960) | 6493 comments Strangers on a Train by Patricia Highsmith
and anything by Cornell Woolridge


message 5: by Michael (new)

Michael (Knowledgelost) wow so many great choices, so many books to read. I better get busy


message 6: by stan (new)

stan (stanthewiseman) | 122 comments Farewell my Lovely


message 7: by Merrill (new)

Merrill Heath | 59 comments Double Indemnity (the movie is pretty good, too)
The Thin Man
Kiss Me, Deadly


message 8: by Jill (new)

Jill (Bucs1960) | 6493 comments Merrill mentioned Kiss Me, Deadly by Micky Spillane......all of his works are very hard boiled and violent and are reminiscent of the old pulp magazines which specialized in those types of tales.


message 9: by Bill (new)

Bill Dumoulin | 249 comments I might suggest P.N. Elrod from out in left field. Her Vampire Files books are written in a hard boiled detective format. The main character is Jack Fleming, a PI, working in 1930's Chicago. He just happens as well to be a vampire. I've read a few of the series; Lady Crymsyn for one. You might find them an interesting twist on the hard boiled detective type novel.


message 10: by Merrill (new)

Merrill Heath | 59 comments Jill, I met Mickey Spillane when I was working for Books-A-Million. I was a District Manager for NC, SC, TN, and WV and he used to come in our Bookland store at the mall in Myrtle Beach. If I was at the store when he came by we'd always go down to the food court and have some coffee and chat about books and writing and whatnot. It was a blast.


message 11: by Merrill (new)

Merrill Heath | 59 comments Bill, I'm reading an interesting book by Dan Vining - "Among the Living." His main character is a "Sailor" which is someone who has died and come back to life. He's not a vampire, he's just in limbo until he resolves some issue that doesn't allow him to move on. There are other Sailors - some good and some bad.

The main character is a private detective and it has a hard-boiled feel to it. I was afraid the Sailor bit would be hokey, but he handles it well. It's interesting. I really like his writing style.

It's billed as "Raymond Chandler meets Stephen King." You ought to check it out.

Merrill Heath
Consequences


message 12: by Michael (new)

Michael (Knowledgelost) So many great choices here, another few I was recommended (else where) included

Dog Soldiers - described to me as Raymond Chandler meets Hunter S. Thompson. In a good way.
Fast One - they described the writer as the 20-minute egg of hard boil


message 13: by Nancy (new)

Nancy (quinnsmom) | 63 comments Dog Soldiers is awesome! I think I'll reread it here shortly. Thanks for the reminder.


message 14: by Bill (new)

Bill Dumoulin | 249 comments Merrill wrote: "Bill, I'm reading an interesting book by Dan Vining - "Among the Living." His main character is a "Sailor" which is someone who has died and come back to life. He's not a vampire, he's just in limb..."

Thanks for the suggestion, Merrill. Much appreciated


message 15: by Jill (new)

Jill (Bucs1960) | 6493 comments Merrill wrote: "Jill, I met Mickey Spillane when I was working for Books-A-Million. I was a District Manager for NC, SC, TN, and WV and he used to come in our Bookland store at the mall in Myrtle Beach. If I was a..."

I shop at one of the WV BAM stores....the one outside of Charleston. Love it.....too bad Spillane didn't come to that store back in the day!!! My father was a big reader of Spillane's books and I have read several. They are hard-boiled fiction at its best.


message 16: by Hugh (new)

Hugh Foster | 176 comments The Walter Syndrome, by Richard Neely
His Name Was Death, by Fredric Brown
Peeper, by Loren D. Estleman
Five Roundabouts To Heaven, by John Bingham
Waltz Into Darkness, by Cornell Woolrich
Of Tender Sin, by David Goodis
The Chill, by Ross MacDonald
The Screaming Mimi, by Fredric Brown
Mirror, Mirror On The Wall, by Stanley Ellin


message 17: by Raymond (new)

Raymond Rose (RaymondMRose) | 4 comments I would check out any of the Angie and Patrick series by Dennis Lehane. The last book was a little so-so but the first five books are solid hard-boiled reads. The first book is below:

A Drink Before the War (Kenzie & Gennaro, #1)

A Drink Before the War

If you want to go slightly out of the mystery genre, try Mike Carey's The Devil You Know.
The Devil You Know (Felix Castor, #1)
It's paranormal but really, really gritty and quite disturbing. That book creeped me out and I am not the easiest person to do that too!
The Devil You Know


message 18: by Merrill (new)

Merrill Heath | 59 comments Thanks, Raymond. I may check out Carey's book. Sounds interesting.

Merrill Heath
Bearing False Witness


message 19: by Vince (new)

Vince (LV918) | 162 comments I've said it before, no one is boiled harder than Jack Taylor...
The Guards  A Novel
Start with The Guards


message 20: by Jan C (new)

Jan C (woeisme) | 6693 comments I've just started The Guards. Too soon to tell. But I liked it enough to go beyond the Kindle sample.


message 21: by Michael (new)

Michael (Knowledgelost) I just finished The Best American Noir of the Century. Well worth it for Noir fans


The Best American Noir of the Century



message 22: by Jill (new)

Jill (Bucs1960) | 6493 comments Crime Novels : American Noir of the 1950s is another great book of short stories, which includes
Strangers on a Trainamong others. A chilling read for the noir fans.


message 24: by Pamela (new)

Pamela (plvannest) | 17 comments The Talented Mr. Ripley Patricia Highsmith is one of the great ones. There's no big whodunit mystery going on, but the way she puts you inside Ripley's head--very disturbing and as noir as night.


message 27: by Michael (new)

Michael (Knowledgelost) Sounds good Lise, I will try and get a copy of the book


Elizabeth (Alaska) Must jump in and mention this month's Club Read: The Little Sister, as you've mentioned The Big Sleep, anything by Chandler.


message 29: by Michael (new)

Michael (Knowledgelost) I'm reading the little sister :-) I love all of Chandlers books


message 30: by Alex (new)

Alex Metcalf | 11 comments Oddly enough, no one's mentioned James Ellroy yet. His later books tend to get a bit style heavy, but his earlier novels: Big Nowhere, Black Dahlia, Clandestine, etc, are some of the finest modern noirs around


message 31: by Michael (new)

Michael (Knowledgelost) I like Ellroy, I'm currently reading his memoirs; My Dark Places


message 32: by Nigel (new)

Nigel Bird (nigelbird) | 46 comments I'd recommend John Rector's The Cold Kiss. I've just posted a review here and at http://nigelpbird.blogspot.com for those who are interested. It's noir and not hard-boiled.

nigel


message 33: by Jamesibiza (new)

Jamesibiza | 2 comments Hi, I'm new to the group, but would like to recommend Noho
Noho
for anyone interested in 1930s era crime fiction. It's hard boiled noir.

Set in London's West End, Noho tells the story of disgraced war hero Nick Valentine's race to find the killer of a murdered nightclub chorus girl. Pitted against foreign spies, underworld gangsters and a rogue British intelligence agent, Nick soon discovers who killed her may be less important than why.

Thanks in advance and I hope you enjoy it.
James


message 34: by Daniel (new)

Daniel Ames | 8 comments This author writes good hardboiled/police procedurals, most are 99 cents and 5-star ratings:

Dead Wood

Death By Sarcasm

The Garbage Collector (No. 1)



message 35: by Susan (new)

Susan | 116 comments Thanks Daniel! I just got Dead Wood for my Ipad and can't wait to read it!! My first E book!! :)


message 36: by Susan (last edited Nov 10, 2011 05:49am) (new)

Susan | 116 comments I ordered the other two-LOL!!! :)


message 37: by Vincent (new)

Vincent Zandri (wwwvincentzandricom) | 7 comments Bri Clark here reporting in for Vince. I'm his publicist. The Screamcatcher December blog tour organized by the wonderful Molly Edwards will be announced on the Vox tomorrow. Along with the Screamcatcher trailer! Anyone who has not joined and would like to please contact Bri at bri@belleconsult.com and I'll get you on the calendar along wtih a digital copy of Screamcatcher.
Vincent Zandri



message 38: by Hayes, Co-Moderator (new)

Hayes (Hayes13) | 1787 comments Vincent wrote: "Bri Clark here reporting in for Vince. I'm his publicist. The Screamcatcher December blog tour organized by the wonderful Molly Edwards will be announced on the Vox tomorrow. Along with the Screamc..."

Hi Bri,
You might want to cross post this in the "Author's Corner" or the "Sites and Blogs" folders so more people will see it.


message 39: by Vince (new)

Vince Panone (VincePan1) | 13 comments Check out Loren D Estleman's Amos Walker series. In particular, Never Street Great noir novel, that salutes some of the classic noir films.


message 40: by Brian (new)

Brian January (brianjanuary) | 20 comments Check out Richard Stark's (Donald Westlake) early Parker novels from the '60's. Parker is absolutely amoral!

Brian January


message 41: by Phillip (new)

Phillip Duck (PhillipThomasDuck) | 16 comments Here's a hard-boiled mystery for FREE, from yours truly :-) DISTRACTED: A THRILLER /Distracted: A Thriller

http://www.amazon.com/Distracted-A-Th...


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message 43: by Jerold (new)

Jerold Last (goodreadscomJerold_Last) | 259 comments From a review of The Ambivalent Corpse at www.amazon.com. Four Stars. Amazon Verified Purchase
“Namroff” says: “This combination murder mystery and tour of South America moves along very quickly. There are a few surprises but like the really good mysteries, the clues are there. Having been to Montevideo and Buenos Aires and being a Jewish biochemist, this book had special appeal to me. Regardless, I think anyone looking for a bit of diversion would enjoy it. This is the authors' second work of fiction and shows real promise for creating a new genre- the punster detective - and what's more novel than that?” This book is also available from Smashwords, Apple, Nook, Sony, and Kobo.


message 44: by Jerold (new)

Jerold Last (goodreadscomJerold_Last) | 259 comments From a review of The Ambivalent Corpse on Amazon. Four Stars. Amazon Verified Purchase
“Namroff” says: “This combination murder mystery and tour of South America moves along very quickly. There are a few surprises but like the really good mysteries, the clues are there. Having been to Montevideo and Buenos Aires and being a Jewish biochemist, this book had special appeal to me. Regardless, I think anyone looking for a bit of diversion would enjoy it. This is the authors' second work of fiction and shows real promise for creating a new genre- the punster detective - and what's more novel than that?”
This book is also available from Smashwords, Apple, Nook, Sony, and Kobo.


message 45: by Judith (new)

Judith Starkston | 32 comments If noir is what you're looking for, I'd recommend Kelli Stanley. She has two noir series, one set in San Francisco in the 30's City of Dragons and City of Secrets. The other is set in ancient Rome--and somehow the combination works really well--The Curse-Maker


message 46: by Almeta (new)

Almeta (MenFromMarrs) | 166 comments Jill wrote: "Strangers on a Train by Patricia Highsmith
and anything by Cornell Woolridge"


Can't seem to find Cornell Woolrige. Got another way for me to look him up?


message 47: by Jan C (new)


message 48: by Almeta (new)

Almeta (MenFromMarrs) | 166 comments Jan C wrote: "The Bride Wore Black by Cornell Woolrich

Does that help?"


Helps tremendously. I was trying your original post of Woolridge, and was getting nowhere. Maybe you would like to edit, message 4?

This is a wonderful tip. I have added some of his books to my list.


message 49: by Jan C (new)

Jan C (woeisme) | 6693 comments Almeta wrote: "Jan C wrote: "The Bride Wore Black by Cornell Woolrich

Does that help?"

Helps tremendously. I was trying your original post of Woolridge, and was getting nowhere..."


Whew! I was afraid that was me. But it was Jill.


message 50: by Almeta (new)

Almeta (MenFromMarrs) | 166 comments Jan C wrote: "The Bride Wore Black by Cornell Woolrich
Does that help?"


Ah, yes, since you had responded, without looking further, I just assumed it was your original post.

Jill wrote: "Strangers on a Train by Patricia Highsmith
and anything by Cornell Woolridge"


Jill, you might want to edit your #4 message, and change the author's name to Woolrich instead of Woolridge.

Again, I do appreciate the suggestion.

Thanks to you both.


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